From danilo at shimmerphase.com  Fri Jun  2 04:27:15 2006
From: danilo at shimmerphase.com (danilocelic)
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 23:27:15 -0500
Subject: [sIFR3-dev] sifr like flash font headings with resizxing and reflow
Message-ID: <447FBE23.8090305@shimmerphase.com>

Hey folks,

Ran across this today:
http://tom-lee.blogspot.com/2006/06/sifr-alternative-demo-page.html

has text resizing with the browser text and text reflowing when page is resized

-- 
Danilo Celic
| Extending Knowledge Daily : http://CommunityMX.com/
| Adobe Community Expert



From mark at novemberborn.net  Fri Jun  2 08:33:25 2006
From: mark at novemberborn.net (Mark Wubben)
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 10:33:25 +0200
Subject: [sIFR3-dev] sifr like flash font headings with resizxing and
	reflow
In-Reply-To: <447FBE23.8090305@shimmerphase.com>
References: <447FBE23.8090305@shimmerphase.com>
Message-ID: <ADFE1B82-E893-4BB7-B7FE-F1278B78C456@novemberborn.net>

Yeah, he mailed me about it. Looking at the code it's how I advised  
you should implement this for sIFR 2, with a font size checker and re- 
rendering of the Flash. The code isn't very cross-browser compatible,  
either, but it's a good start.

I'll be looking into re-rendering *inside* Flash, without reloading.  
Should be fun!

On Jun 2, 2006, at 6:27 AM, danilocelic wrote:

> Hey folks,
>
> Ran across this today:
> http://tom-lee.blogspot.com/2006/06/sifr-alternative-demo-page.html
>
> has text resizing with the browser text and text reflowing when  
> page is resized
>
> -- 
> Danilo Celic
> | Extending Knowledge Daily : http://CommunityMX.com/
> | Adobe Community Expert
>
> _______________________________________________
> sifr3-dev mailing list
> sifr3-dev at lists.novemberborn.net
> http://lists.novemberborn.net/mailman/listinfo/sifr3-dev

--
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From branstrom at gmail.com  Fri Jun  2 11:50:12 2006
From: branstrom at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fredrik_Br=E4nstr=F6m?=)
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 13:50:12 +0200
Subject: [sIFR3-dev] sifr like flash font headings with resizxing and
	reflow
In-Reply-To: <ADFE1B82-E893-4BB7-B7FE-F1278B78C456@novemberborn.net>
References: <447FBE23.8090305@shimmerphase.com>
	<ADFE1B82-E893-4BB7-B7FE-F1278B78C456@novemberborn.net>
Message-ID: <22410ce30606020450n75df3185pb87c63bd52ea01ed@mail.gmail.com>

Looking forward to that.

What I would also want, I'm sure I've mentioned this before and not so sure
if maybe it's already in sIFR 3... Variable width for the Flash element, not
just block width all the time. This would be really great.

On 6/2/06, Mark Wubben <mark at novemberborn.net> wrote:
>
> Yeah, he mailed me about it. Looking at the code it's how I advised
> you should implement this for sIFR 2, with a font size checker and re-
> rendering of the Flash. The code isn't very cross-browser compatible,
> either, but it's a good start.
>
> I'll be looking into re-rendering *inside* Flash, without reloading.
> Should be fun!
>
> On Jun 2, 2006, at 6:27 AM, danilocelic wrote:
>
> > Hey folks,
> >
> > Ran across this today:
> > http://tom-lee.blogspot.com/2006/06/sifr-alternative-demo-page.html
> >
> > has text resizing with the browser text and text reflowing when
> > page is resized
> >
> > --
> > Danilo Celic
> > | Extending Knowledge Daily : http://CommunityMX.com/
> > | Adobe Community Expert
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > sifr3-dev mailing list
> > sifr3-dev at lists.novemberborn.net
> > http://lists.novemberborn.net/mailman/listinfo/sifr3-dev
>
> --
> Mark Wubben
> http://novemberborn.net/
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sifr3-dev mailing list
> sifr3-dev at lists.novemberborn.net
> http://lists.novemberborn.net/mailman/listinfo/sifr3-dev
>



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From branstrom at gmail.com  Fri Jun  2 12:25:05 2006
From: branstrom at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fredrik_Br=E4nstr=F6m?=)
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 14:25:05 +0200
Subject: [sIFR3-dev] Firefox on Windows
Message-ID: <22410ce30606020525o5a6e03e2xea17a01853ba0d7@mail.gmail.com>

I'm having a problem. Firefox (1.5.0.3 and .4) on Windows doesn't replace
any elements when dealing with sIFR 3.

I have every possible technology needed switched on (JS, Flash, CSS...) and
I can't figure out what's wrong, and since it works for some people... it
seems really weird.

Please help me figure this out, and maybe if necessary Mark, make the
necessary adaptations in the sIFR code.

Does the demo page from the beta work in Firefox on Windows?
http://dev.novemberborn.net/sifr3/svn/test/distribution/demo/ If you've got
Firefox, help me test.

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From mark at novemberborn.net  Fri Jun  2 12:25:53 2006
From: mark at novemberborn.net (Mark Wubben)
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 14:25:53 +0200
Subject: [sIFR3-dev] sifr like flash font headings with resizxing and
	reflow
In-Reply-To: <22410ce30606020450n75df3185pb87c63bd52ea01ed@mail.gmail.com>
References: <447FBE23.8090305@shimmerphase.com>
	<ADFE1B82-E893-4BB7-B7FE-F1278B78C456@novemberborn.net>
	<22410ce30606020450n75df3185pb87c63bd52ea01ed@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0E7C7A12-B977-41DD-9FF9-F741A2494A61@novemberborn.net>

On Jun 2, 2006, at 1:50 PM, Fredrik Br?nstr?m wrote:
> What I would also want, I'm sure I've mentioned this before and not  
> so sure
> if maybe it's already in sIFR 3... Variable width for the Flash  
> element, not
> just block width all the time. This would be really great.

What do you mean by variable width?

--
Mark Wubben
http://novemberborn.net/





From branstrom at gmail.com  Fri Jun  2 12:30:19 2006
From: branstrom at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fredrik_Br=E4nstr=F6m?=)
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 14:30:19 +0200
Subject: [sIFR3-dev] sifr like flash font headings with resizxing and
	reflow
In-Reply-To: <0E7C7A12-B977-41DD-9FF9-F741A2494A61@novemberborn.net>
References: <447FBE23.8090305@shimmerphase.com>
	<ADFE1B82-E893-4BB7-B7FE-F1278B78C456@novemberborn.net>
	<22410ce30606020450n75df3185pb87c63bd52ea01ed@mail.gmail.com>
	<0E7C7A12-B977-41DD-9FF9-F741A2494A61@novemberborn.net>
Message-ID: <22410ce30606020530v24c9c53u48a641863bb7ae0a@mail.gmail.com>

That it would adapt its horisontal reach, and not have 100% width all the
time.... like a <span> element vs a <div> element.

On 6/2/06, Mark Wubben <mark at novemberborn.net> wrote:
>
> On Jun 2, 2006, at 1:50 PM, Fredrik Br?nstr?m wrote:
> > What I would also want, I'm sure I've mentioned this before and not
> > so sure
> > if maybe it's already in sIFR 3... Variable width for the Flash
> > element, not
> > just block width all the time. This would be really great.
>
> What do you mean by variable width?
>
> --
> Mark Wubben
> http://novemberborn.net/
>
>
>
>


-- 
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http://fredrik.branstrom.nu
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From mark at novemberborn.net  Fri Jun  2 14:30:09 2006
From: mark at novemberborn.net (Mark Wubben)
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 16:30:09 +0200
Subject: [sIFR3-dev] sifr like flash font headings with resizxing and
	reflow
In-Reply-To: <22410ce30606020530v24c9c53u48a641863bb7ae0a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <447FBE23.8090305@shimmerphase.com>
	<ADFE1B82-E893-4BB7-B7FE-F1278B78C456@novemberborn.net>
	<22410ce30606020450n75df3185pb87c63bd52ea01ed@mail.gmail.com>
	<0E7C7A12-B977-41DD-9FF9-F741A2494A61@novemberborn.net>
	<22410ce30606020530v24c9c53u48a641863bb7ae0a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1652F632-7738-412A-9731-01ACB6BDC203@novemberborn.net>

On Jun 2, 2006, at 2:30 PM, Fredrik Br?nstr?m wrote:

> That it would adapt its horisontal reach, and not have 100% width  
> all the
> time.... like a <span> element vs a <div> element.

Ah okay. Yeah, it does that already.

--
Mark Wubben
http://novemberborn.net/





From mark at novemberborn.net  Fri Jun  2 14:31:57 2006
From: mark at novemberborn.net (Mark Wubben)
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 16:31:57 +0200
Subject: [sIFR3-dev] Firefox on Windows
In-Reply-To: <22410ce30606020525o5a6e03e2xea17a01853ba0d7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <22410ce30606020525o5a6e03e2xea17a01853ba0d7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C01AE9AA-2822-4EEA-9FB7-D28690101338@novemberborn.net>

Could it be that you have Quicktime registered for handling Flash? If  
so, sIFR will not work.
On Jun 2, 2006, at 2:25 PM, Fredrik Br?nstr?m wrote:


> I'm having a problem. Firefox (1.5.0.3 and .4) on Windows doesn't  
> replace any elements when dealing with sIFR 3.
>
> I have every possible technology needed switched on (JS, Flash,  
> CSS...) and I can't figure out what's wrong, and since it works for  
> some people... it seems really weird.
>
> Please help me figure this out, and maybe if necessary Mark, make  
> the necessary adaptations in the sIFR code.
>
> Does the demo page from the beta work in Firefox on Windows? http:// 
> dev.novemberborn.net/sifr3/svn/test/distribution/demo/ If you've  
> got Firefox, help me test.
>
> -- 
> Fredrik Br?nstr?m
> http://fredrik.branstrom.nu
> _______________________________________________
> sifr3-dev mailing list
> sifr3-dev at lists.novemberborn.net
> http://lists.novemberborn.net/mailman/listinfo/sifr3-dev

--
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http://novemberborn.net/





From branstrom at gmail.com  Fri Jun  2 14:32:07 2006
From: branstrom at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fredrik_Br=E4nstr=F6m?=)
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 16:32:07 +0200
Subject: [sIFR3-dev] sifr like flash font headings with resizxing and
	reflow
In-Reply-To: <1652F632-7738-412A-9731-01ACB6BDC203@novemberborn.net>
References: <447FBE23.8090305@shimmerphase.com>
	<ADFE1B82-E893-4BB7-B7FE-F1278B78C456@novemberborn.net>
	<22410ce30606020450n75df3185pb87c63bd52ea01ed@mail.gmail.com>
	<0E7C7A12-B977-41DD-9FF9-F741A2494A61@novemberborn.net>
	<22410ce30606020530v24c9c53u48a641863bb7ae0a@mail.gmail.com>
	<1652F632-7738-412A-9731-01ACB6BDC203@novemberborn.net>
Message-ID: <22410ce30606020732q54976ebeu71e585c26ddf04ec@mail.gmail.com>

Aight. Haven't seen it anywhere though, maybe you should feature it in the
demo?

On 6/2/06, Mark Wubben <mark at novemberborn.net> wrote:
>
> On Jun 2, 2006, at 2:30 PM, Fredrik Br?nstr?m wrote:
>
> > That it would adapt its horisontal reach, and not have 100% width
> > all the
> > time.... like a <span> element vs a <div> element.
>
> Ah okay. Yeah, it does that already.
>
> --
> Mark Wubben
> http://novemberborn.net/
>
>
>
>


-- 
Fredrik Br?nstr?m
http://fredrik.branstrom.nu
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From branstrom at gmail.com  Fri Jun  2 14:34:24 2006
From: branstrom at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fredrik_Br=E4nstr=F6m?=)
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 16:34:24 +0200
Subject: [sIFR3-dev] Firefox on Windows
In-Reply-To: <C01AE9AA-2822-4EEA-9FB7-D28690101338@novemberborn.net>
References: <22410ce30606020525o5a6e03e2xea17a01853ba0d7@mail.gmail.com>
	<C01AE9AA-2822-4EEA-9FB7-D28690101338@novemberborn.net>
Message-ID: <22410ce30606020734i2b459bcck2bc804df6b412904@mail.gmail.com>

How could I test that?

On 6/2/06, Mark Wubben <mark at novemberborn.net> wrote:
>
> Could it be that you have Quicktime registered for handling Flash? If
> so, sIFR will not work.
> On Jun 2, 2006, at 2:25 PM, Fredrik Br?nstr?m wrote:
>
>
> > I'm having a problem. Firefox (1.5.0.3 and .4) on Windows doesn't
> > replace any elements when dealing with sIFR 3.
> >
> > I have every possible technology needed switched on (JS, Flash,
> > CSS...) and I can't figure out what's wrong, and since it works for
> > some people... it seems really weird.
> >
> > Please help me figure this out, and maybe if necessary Mark, make
> > the necessary adaptations in the sIFR code.
> >
> > Does the demo page from the beta work in Firefox on Windows? http://
> > dev.novemberborn.net/sifr3/svn/test/distribution/demo/ If you've
> > got Firefox, help me test.
> >
> > --
> > Fredrik Br?nstr?m
> > http://fredrik.branstrom.nu
> > _______________________________________________
> > sifr3-dev mailing list
> > sifr3-dev at lists.novemberborn.net
> > http://lists.novemberborn.net/mailman/listinfo/sifr3-dev
>
> --
> Mark Wubben
> http://novemberborn.net/
>
>
>
>


-- 
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From mark at novemberborn.net  Fri Jun  2 14:59:37 2006
From: mark at novemberborn.net (Mark Wubben)
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 16:59:37 +0200
Subject: [sIFR3-dev] sifr like flash font headings with resizxing and
	reflow
In-Reply-To: <22410ce30606020732q54976ebeu71e585c26ddf04ec@mail.gmail.com>
References: <447FBE23.8090305@shimmerphase.com>
	<ADFE1B82-E893-4BB7-B7FE-F1278B78C456@novemberborn.net>
	<22410ce30606020450n75df3185pb87c63bd52ea01ed@mail.gmail.com>
	<0E7C7A12-B977-41DD-9FF9-F741A2494A61@novemberborn.net>
	<22410ce30606020530v24c9c53u48a641863bb7ae0a@mail.gmail.com>
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On Jun 2, 2006, at 4:32 PM, Fredrik Br?nstr?m wrote:

> Aight. Haven't seen it anywhere though, maybe you should feature it  
> in the
> demo?

What happens if you resize the page?

--
Mark Wubben
http://novemberborn.net/





From mark at novemberborn.net  Fri Jun  2 15:03:18 2006
From: mark at novemberborn.net (Mark Wubben)
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 17:03:18 +0200
Subject: [sIFR3-dev] Firefox on Windows
In-Reply-To: <22410ce30606020734i2b459bcck2bc804df6b412904@mail.gmail.com>
References: <22410ce30606020525o5a6e03e2xea17a01853ba0d7@mail.gmail.com>
	<C01AE9AA-2822-4EEA-9FB7-D28690101338@novemberborn.net>
	<22410ce30606020734i2b459bcck2bc804df6b412904@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C31653AC-0A42-45F0-A155-1ADF02E5C784@novemberborn.net>

This is the detection code in the JavaScript:

       // Watch out for QuickTime, which could be stealing the Flash  
handling!
       var i = 0;
       while(this.flashVersion >= MIN_FLASH_VERSION && i <  
navigator.mimeTypes.length) {
         var mime = navigator.mimeTypes[i];
         if(mime.type == 'application/x-shockwave-flash'
         && !new RegExp('.*Shockwave\\sFlash\\s' + this.flashVersion  
+ '.*').exec(mime.enabledPlugin.description)) {
           this.flashVersion = 0;
         }
         i++;
       }

You can probably add an alert somewhere in the demo to find it out.  
I'm at a conference right now so can't really be of any more help.

On Jun 2, 2006, at 4:34 PM, Fredrik Br?nstr?m wrote:

> How could I test that?
>
> On 6/2/06, Mark Wubben <mark at novemberborn.net> wrote: Could it be  
> that you have Quicktime registered for handling Flash? If
> so, sIFR will not work.
> On Jun 2, 2006, at 2:25 PM, Fredrik Br?nstr?m wrote:
>
>
> > I'm having a problem. Firefox ( 1.5.0.3 and .4) on Windows doesn't
> > replace any elements when dealing with sIFR 3.
> >
> > I have every possible technology needed switched on (JS, Flash,
> > CSS...) and I can't figure out what's wrong, and since it works for
> > some people... it seems really weird.
> >
> > Please help me figure this out, and maybe if necessary Mark, make
> > the necessary adaptations in the sIFR code.
> >
> > Does the demo page from the beta work in Firefox on Windows? http://
> > dev.novemberborn.net/sifr3/svn/test/distribution/demo/ If you've
> > got Firefox, help me test.
> >
> > --
> > Fredrik Br?nstr?m
> > http://fredrik.branstrom.nu
> > _______________________________________________
> > sifr3-dev mailing list
> > sifr3-dev at lists.novemberborn.net
> > http://lists.novemberborn.net/mailman/listinfo/sifr3-dev
>
> --
> Mark Wubben
> http://novemberborn.net/
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Fredrik Br?nstr?m
> http://fredrik.branstrom.nu

--
Mark Wubben
http://novemberborn.net/





From branstrom at gmail.com  Fri Jun  2 15:15:15 2006
From: branstrom at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fredrik_Br=E4nstr=F6m?=)
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 17:15:15 +0200
Subject: [sIFR3-dev] sifr like flash font headings with resizxing and
	reflow
In-Reply-To: <402F0737-883E-4556-AF6F-46A8911DF26C@novemberborn.net>
References: <447FBE23.8090305@shimmerphase.com>
	<ADFE1B82-E893-4BB7-B7FE-F1278B78C456@novemberborn.net>
	<22410ce30606020450n75df3185pb87c63bd52ea01ed@mail.gmail.com>
	<0E7C7A12-B977-41DD-9FF9-F741A2494A61@novemberborn.net>
	<22410ce30606020530v24c9c53u48a641863bb7ae0a@mail.gmail.com>
	<1652F632-7738-412A-9731-01ACB6BDC203@novemberborn.net>
	<22410ce30606020732q54976ebeu71e585c26ddf04ec@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <22410ce30606020815m62337778na75add3fe75b9f04@mail.gmail.com>

http://dev.novemberborn.net/sifr3/svn/test/distribution/demo/

Are you talking about that demo or the modified one above?

Both only feature 100% width block elements. If I resize the page to a very
wide size, I can still see, by using the DOMi for instance, that the Flash
is a block element, it always is. Is this inescapable?

Btw, on Windows, both Opera and IE render both the replaced elements and the
Flash, with the Flash just above and the normal text below.
http://design.tom-lee.com/labs/HeadingReplacement/default.html doesn't work
in Opera and causes JS errors in IE.

On 6/2/06, Mark Wubben <mark at novemberborn.net> wrote:
>
> On Jun 2, 2006, at 4:32 PM, Fredrik Br?nstr?m wrote:
>
> > Aight. Haven't seen it anywhere though, maybe you should feature it
> > in the
> > demo?
>
> What happens if you resize the page?
>
> --
> Mark Wubben
> http://novemberborn.net/
>
>
>
>


-- 
Fredrik Br?nstr?m
http://fredrik.branstrom.nu
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From mark at novemberborn.net  Fri Jun  2 15:53:09 2006
From: mark at novemberborn.net (Mark Wubben)
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 17:53:09 +0200
Subject: [sIFR3-dev] sifr like flash font headings with resizxing and
	reflow
In-Reply-To: <22410ce30606020815m62337778na75add3fe75b9f04@mail.gmail.com>
References: <447FBE23.8090305@shimmerphase.com>
	<ADFE1B82-E893-4BB7-B7FE-F1278B78C456@novemberborn.net>
	<22410ce30606020450n75df3185pb87c63bd52ea01ed@mail.gmail.com>
	<0E7C7A12-B977-41DD-9FF9-F741A2494A61@novemberborn.net>
	<22410ce30606020530v24c9c53u48a641863bb7ae0a@mail.gmail.com>
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	<22410ce30606020732q54976ebeu71e585c26ddf04ec@mail.gmail.com>
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On Jun 2, 2006, at 5:15 PM, Fredrik Br?nstr?m wrote:
> Both only feature 100% width block elements. If I resize the page  
> to a very
> wide size, I can still see, by using the DOMi for instance, that  
> the Flash
> is a block element, it always is. Is this inescapable?

Flash is a block element by default, but with 100% it shouldn't break  
things in the page. Actually, it might be more than 100% if the text  
doesn't fit and can't be wrapped.
>
> Btw, on Windows, both Opera and IE render both the replaced  
> elements and the
> Flash, with the Flash just above and the normal text below.

You are seeing some strange things! When I test in Opera and IE  
everything's fine...

--
Mark Wubben
http://novemberborn.net/





From mark at novemberborn.net  Fri Jun  9 20:20:36 2006
From: mark at novemberborn.net (Mark Wubben)
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 22:20:36 +0200
Subject: [sIFR3-dev] Firefox on Windows
In-Reply-To: <22410ce30606020734i2b459bcck2bc804df6b412904@mail.gmail.com>
References: <22410ce30606020525o5a6e03e2xea17a01853ba0d7@mail.gmail.com>
	<C01AE9AA-2822-4EEA-9FB7-D28690101338@novemberborn.net>
	<22410ce30606020734i2b459bcck2bc804df6b412904@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAC77E97-A852-4D44-8C9B-5EA4BF5701A8@novemberborn.net>

On Jun 2, 2006, at 4:34 PM, Fredrik Br?nstr?m wrote:

> How could I test that?

I've uploaded a test to <http://dev.novemberborn.net/sifr3/svn/test/ 
visual/quicktime-detection/>. Please let me know the results.

Kind regards,

>
> On 6/2/06, Mark Wubben <mark at novemberborn.net> wrote:
>>
>> Could it be that you have Quicktime registered for handling Flash? If
>> so, sIFR will not work.
>> On Jun 2, 2006, at 2:25 PM, Fredrik Br?nstr?m wrote:
>>
>>
>> > I'm having a problem. Firefox (1.5.0.3 and .4) on Windows doesn't
>> > replace any elements when dealing with sIFR 3.
>> >
>> > I have every possible technology needed switched on (JS, Flash,
>> > CSS...) and I can't figure out what's wrong, and since it works for
>> > some people... it seems really weird.
>> >
>> > Please help me figure this out, and maybe if necessary Mark, make
>> > the necessary adaptations in the sIFR code.
>> >
>> > Does the demo page from the beta work in Firefox on Windows?  
>> http://
>> > dev.novemberborn.net/sifr3/svn/test/distribution/demo/ If you've
>> > got Firefox, help me test.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Fredrik Br?nstr?m
>> > http://fredrik.branstrom.nu
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > sifr3-dev mailing list
>> > sifr3-dev at lists.novemberborn.net
>> > http://lists.novemberborn.net/mailman/listinfo/sifr3-dev
>>
>> --
>> Mark Wubben
>> http://novemberborn.net/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> -- 
> Fredrik Br?nstr?m
> http://fredrik.branstrom.nu

--
Mark Wubben
http://novemberborn.net/





From marcos.peebles at gmail.com  Mon Jun 12 08:05:02 2006
From: marcos.peebles at gmail.com (Marcos Peebles)
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 10:05:02 +0200
Subject: [sIFR3-dev] Firefox on Windows
In-Reply-To: <CAC77E97-A852-4D44-8C9B-5EA4BF5701A8@novemberborn.net>
References: <22410ce30606020525o5a6e03e2xea17a01853ba0d7@mail.gmail.com>
	<C01AE9AA-2822-4EEA-9FB7-D28690101338@novemberborn.net>
	<22410ce30606020734i2b459bcck2bc804df6b412904@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAC77E97-A852-4D44-8C9B-5EA4BF5701A8@novemberborn.net>
Message-ID: <ccbb2c340606120105r3240fa2s4c3a60f4a0b85e02@mail.gmail.com>

Ok,
works on:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; fr; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060508
Firefox/1.5.0.4
detects: Shockwave Flash 8.0 r24

the demo works ok as well with FF, only thing: when you select the text, you
get a funny break (line) at the end, making the text to go one line up... no
big deal.

Cheers





On 09/06/06, Mark Wubben <mark at novemberborn.net> wrote:
>
> On Jun 2, 2006, at 4:34 PM, Fredrik Br?nstr?m wrote:
>
> > How could I test that?
>
> I've uploaded a test to <http://dev.novemberborn.net/sifr3/svn/test/
> visual/quicktime-detection/>. Please let me know the results.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> >
> > On 6/2/06, Mark Wubben <mark at novemberborn.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Could it be that you have Quicktime registered for handling Flash? If
> >> so, sIFR will not work.
> >> On Jun 2, 2006, at 2:25 PM, Fredrik Br?nstr?m wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> > I'm having a problem. Firefox ( 1.5.0.3 and .4) on Windows doesn't
> >> > replace any elements when dealing with sIFR 3.
> >> >
> >> > I have every possible technology needed switched on (JS, Flash,
> >> > CSS...) and I can't figure out what's wrong, and since it works for
> >> > some people... it seems really weird.
> >> >
> >> > Please help me figure this out, and maybe if necessary Mark, make
> >> > the necessary adaptations in the sIFR code.
> >> >
> >> > Does the demo page from the beta work in Firefox on Windows?
> >> http://
> >> > dev.novemberborn.net/sifr3/svn/test/distribution/demo/ If you've
> >> > got Firefox, help me test.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Fredrik Br?nstr?m
> >> > http://fredrik.branstrom.nu
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > sifr3-dev mailing list
> >> > sifr3-dev at lists.novemberborn.net
> >> > http://lists.novemberborn.net/mailman/listinfo/sifr3-dev
> >>
> >> --
> >> Mark Wubben
> >> http://novemberborn.net/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Fredrik Br?nstr?m
> > http://fredrik.branstrom.nu
>
> --
> Mark Wubben
> http://novemberborn.net/
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sifr3-dev mailing list
> sifr3-dev at lists.novemberborn.net
> http://lists.novemberborn.net/mailman/listinfo/sifr3-dev
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From mark at novemberborn.net  Mon Jun 12 18:39:01 2006
From: mark at novemberborn.net (Mark Wubben)
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 20:39:01 +0200
Subject: [sIFR3-dev] Eolas update
Message-ID: <7FEAF2F2-C6EC-403C-961D-4B4D0747BAF3@novemberborn.net>

Hi,

I just got off the phone with a support engineer from Microsoft about  
the Eolas problem. Unfortunately, because the problem is virtually  
impossible to replicate, they are not able to fix the problem at this  
point in time. Since the problem isn't limited to just sIFR there  
will hopefully be other reports which can shed more light on the  
issue in order for it to be solved.

In the meantime, make sure to update to the latest sIFR version.

Kind regards,

--
Mark Wubben
http://novemberborn.net/





From amclin at kaadesigngroup.com  Tue Jun 13 22:31:08 2006
From: amclin at kaadesigngroup.com (Anthony McLin)
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 15:31:08 -0700
Subject: [sIFR3-dev] non-breaking spaces in sIFR replaced text
Message-ID: <448F3CAC.9030402@kaadesigngroup.com>

Is there a way to include a nonbreaking space in text that is formatted 
by sIFR? When I included &nbsp; in my string, it gets ignored when 
replaced. I've tried doing something along the lines of <span>some 
text</span>&nbsp;&nbsp;<span>continuation of the text</span> but that 
doesn't seem to work because sIFR makes the flash object wider than the 
text it contains.

Any ideas?

-- 
Anthony McLin
Senior Web Developer
amclin at kaadesigngroup.com
T  310.821.1400 ext. 278
F  310.821.1440

KAA Design Group, Inc.
4201 Redwood Avenue
Los Angeles, CA 90066

ARCHITECTURE | LANDSCAPE | GRAPHICS | INTERIORS
http://www.kaadesigngroup.com



From mark at novemberborn.net  Wed Jun 14 09:07:04 2006
From: mark at novemberborn.net (Mark Wubben)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 11:07:04 +0200
Subject: [sIFR3-dev] non-breaking spaces in sIFR replaced text
In-Reply-To: <448F3CAC.9030402@kaadesigngroup.com>
References: <448F3CAC.9030402@kaadesigngroup.com>
Message-ID: <5D53CBD3-9D24-4BF1-9903-60E49E38A650@novemberborn.net>

Hi Anthony,

The problem here is that it's hard to find out which whitespace is  
non-breaking, and which is real whitespace. I'll add an option to  
preserve all single spaces, though.

Kind regards,

On Jun 14, 2006, at 12:31 AM, Anthony McLin wrote:

> Is there a way to include a nonbreaking space in text that is  
> formatted
> by sIFR? When I included &nbsp; in my string, it gets ignored when
> replaced. I've tried doing something along the lines of <span>some
> text</span>&nbsp;&nbsp;<span>continuation of the text</span> but that
> doesn't seem to work because sIFR makes the flash object wider than  
> the
> text it contains.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> -- 
> Anthony McLin
> Senior Web Developer
> amclin at kaadesigngroup.com
> T  310.821.1400 ext. 278
> F  310.821.1440
>
> KAA Design Group, Inc.
> 4201 Redwood Avenue
> Los Angeles, CA 90066
>
> ARCHITECTURE | LANDSCAPE | GRAPHICS | INTERIORS
> http://www.kaadesigngroup.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> sifr3-dev mailing list
> sifr3-dev at lists.novemberborn.net
> http://lists.novemberborn.net/mailman/listinfo/sifr3-dev

--
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http://novemberborn.net/





From branstrom at gmail.com  Fri Jun 16 22:54:25 2006
From: branstrom at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fredrik_Br=E4nstr=F6m?=)
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 00:54:25 +0200
Subject: [sIFR3-dev] Firefox on Windows
In-Reply-To: <CAC77E97-A852-4D44-8C9B-5EA4BF5701A8@novemberborn.net>
References: <22410ce30606020525o5a6e03e2xea17a01853ba0d7@mail.gmail.com>
	<C01AE9AA-2822-4EEA-9FB7-D28690101338@novemberborn.net>
	<22410ce30606020734i2b459bcck2bc804df6b412904@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAC77E97-A852-4D44-8C9B-5EA4BF5701A8@novemberborn.net>
Message-ID: <22410ce30606161554i22d09594ga31ee6347c9deaea@mail.gmail.com>

   - Shockwave Flash 8.0 r22
   - Shockwave Flash 7.0 r19

This was my result. I can report the other test results as well if you'd
like.

On 6/9/06, Mark Wubben <mark at novemberborn.net> wrote:
>
> On Jun 2, 2006, at 4:34 PM, Fredrik Br?nstr?m wrote:
>
> > How could I test that?
>
> I've uploaded a test to <http://dev.novemberborn.net/sifr3/svn/test/
> visual/quicktime-detection/>. Please let me know the results.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> >
> > On 6/2/06, Mark Wubben <mark at novemberborn.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Could it be that you have Quicktime registered for handling Flash? If
> >> so, sIFR will not work.
> >> On Jun 2, 2006, at 2:25 PM, Fredrik Br?nstr?m wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> > I'm having a problem. Firefox (1.5.0.3 and .4) on Windows doesn't
> >> > replace any elements when dealing with sIFR 3.
> >> >
> >> > I have every possible technology needed switched on (JS, Flash,
> >> > CSS...) and I can't figure out what's wrong, and since it works for
> >> > some people... it seems really weird.
> >> >
> >> > Please help me figure this out, and maybe if necessary Mark, make
> >> > the necessary adaptations in the sIFR code.
> >> >
> >> > Does the demo page from the beta work in Firefox on Windows?
> >> http://
> >> > dev.novemberborn.net/sifr3/svn/test/distribution/demo/ If you've
> >> > got Firefox, help me test.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Fredrik Br?nstr?m
> >> > http://fredrik.branstrom.nu
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > sifr3-dev mailing list
> >> > sifr3-dev at lists.novemberborn.net
> >> > http://lists.novemberborn.net/mailman/listinfo/sifr3-dev
> >>
> >> --
> >> Mark Wubben
> >> http://novemberborn.net/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Fredrik Br?nstr?m
> > http://fredrik.branstrom.nu
>
> --
> Mark Wubben
> http://novemberborn.net/
>
>
>
>


-- 
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From mark at novemberborn.net  Sat Jun 17 10:19:32 2006
From: mark at novemberborn.net (Mark Wubben)
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 12:19:32 +0200
Subject: [sIFR3-dev] Firefox on Windows
In-Reply-To: <22410ce30606161554i22d09594ga31ee6347c9deaea@mail.gmail.com>
References: <22410ce30606020525o5a6e03e2xea17a01853ba0d7@mail.gmail.com>
	<C01AE9AA-2822-4EEA-9FB7-D28690101338@novemberborn.net>
	<22410ce30606020734i2b459bcck2bc804df6b412904@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAC77E97-A852-4D44-8C9B-5EA4BF5701A8@novemberborn.net>
	<22410ce30606161554i22d09594ga31ee6347c9deaea@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <315F84E0-0B15-4218-A6E7-9156B10D37AD@novemberborn.net>

On Jun 17, 2006, at 12:54 AM, Fredrik Br?nstr?m wrote:

> Shockwave Flash 8.0 r22
> Shockwave Flash 7.0 r19
> This was my result. I can report the other test results as well if  
> you'd like.

Cheers, that's perfect. The code which tries to detect Quicktime  
actually looks for the already detected Flash plugin. As the Flash 7  
plugin is different it wrongly assumes it has detected Quicktime.

--
Mark Wubben
http://novemberborn.net/





From branstrom at gmail.com  Sun Jun 18 12:30:52 2006
From: branstrom at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fredrik_Br=E4nstr=F6m?=)
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 14:30:52 +0200
Subject: [sIFR3-dev] Firefox on Windows
In-Reply-To: <315F84E0-0B15-4218-A6E7-9156B10D37AD@novemberborn.net>
References: <22410ce30606020525o5a6e03e2xea17a01853ba0d7@mail.gmail.com>
	<C01AE9AA-2822-4EEA-9FB7-D28690101338@novemberborn.net>
	<22410ce30606020734i2b459bcck2bc804df6b412904@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAC77E97-A852-4D44-8C9B-5EA4BF5701A8@novemberborn.net>
	<22410ce30606161554i22d09594ga31ee6347c9deaea@mail.gmail.com>
	<315F84E0-0B15-4218-A6E7-9156B10D37AD@novemberborn.net>
Message-ID: <22410ce30606180530p5c57e04bndcbdb5da9483006e@mail.gmail.com>

But it didn't replace any elements at all. Until I reinstalled the latest
Flash plugin. Now it says it has both Flash r22 and r24 (latest)... sIFR 3
SVN works, but not the r100 nightly. Not in any browser on Windows (Opera,
IE, Firefox) - and in IE I get a message about active content that I should
make a decision on whether to allow displayed or not. The SVN version works
only in Firefox, not in any other browser. The replacement just doesn't
happen.

On 6/17/06, Mark Wubben <mark at novemberborn.net> wrote:
>
> On Jun 17, 2006, at 12:54 AM, Fredrik Br?nstr?m wrote:
>
> > Shockwave Flash 8.0 r22
> > Shockwave Flash 7.0 r19
> > This was my result. I can report the other test results as well if
> > you'd like.
>
> Cheers, that's perfect. The code which tries to detect Quicktime
> actually looks for the already detected Flash plugin. As the Flash 7
> plugin is different it wrongly assumes it has detected Quicktime.
>
> --
> Mark Wubben
> http://novemberborn.net/
>
>
>
>


-- 
Fredrik Br?nstr?m
http://fredrik.branstrom.nu
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From mark at novemberborn.net  Sun Jun 18 12:58:03 2006
From: mark at novemberborn.net (Mark Wubben)
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 14:58:03 +0200
Subject: [sIFR3-dev] Firefox on Windows
In-Reply-To: <22410ce30606180530p5c57e04bndcbdb5da9483006e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <22410ce30606020525o5a6e03e2xea17a01853ba0d7@mail.gmail.com>
	<C01AE9AA-2822-4EEA-9FB7-D28690101338@novemberborn.net>
	<22410ce30606020734i2b459bcck2bc804df6b412904@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAC77E97-A852-4D44-8C9B-5EA4BF5701A8@novemberborn.net>
	<22410ce30606161554i22d09594ga31ee6347c9deaea@mail.gmail.com>
	<315F84E0-0B15-4218-A6E7-9156B10D37AD@novemberborn.net>
	<22410ce30606180530p5c57e04bndcbdb5da9483006e@mail.gmail.com>
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On Jun 18, 2006, at 2:30 PM, Fredrik Br?nstr?m wrote:

> But it didn't replace any elements at all. Until I reinstalled the  
> latest
> Flash plugin. Now it says it has both Flash r22 and r24 (latest)...

When it incorrectly detects Quicktime sIFR disables itself, so no  
elements are replaced.

> sIFR 3 SVN works, but not the r100 nightly. Not in any browser on  
> Windows (Opera,
> IE, Firefox)

The demo had been locked to localhost and my test domains. This is  
fine on a Mac, where files from the system originate from localhost,  
but not on Windows. I've removed this lock with the latest revision.

> - and in IE I get a message about active content that I should
> make a decision on whether to allow displayed or not.

This is probably due to security measures when sIFR is used locally,  
I get Flash security warnings when viewing locally as well.

> The SVN version works only in Firefox, not in any other browser.  
> The replacement just doesn't
> happen.

Could you clarify?

I've now published r101 which should work again on Windows. The  
detection issue has not yet been resolved.

--
Mark Wubben
http://novemberborn.net/





From branstrom at gmail.com  Sun Jun 18 13:08:06 2006
From: branstrom at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fredrik_Br=E4nstr=F6m?=)
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 15:08:06 +0200
Subject: [sIFR3-dev] Firefox on Windows
In-Reply-To: <B8CCD7C6-45BC-4E2F-92CC-C4295C96E99D@novemberborn.net>
References: <22410ce30606020525o5a6e03e2xea17a01853ba0d7@mail.gmail.com>
	<C01AE9AA-2822-4EEA-9FB7-D28690101338@novemberborn.net>
	<22410ce30606020734i2b459bcck2bc804df6b412904@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAC77E97-A852-4D44-8C9B-5EA4BF5701A8@novemberborn.net>
	<22410ce30606161554i22d09594ga31ee6347c9deaea@mail.gmail.com>
	<315F84E0-0B15-4218-A6E7-9156B10D37AD@novemberborn.net>
	<22410ce30606180530p5c57e04bndcbdb5da9483006e@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <22410ce30606180608t5d1a90e2r1026919cbacfb3a6@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/18/06, Mark Wubben <mark at novemberborn.net> wrote:
>
> On Jun 18, 2006, at 2:30 PM, Fredrik Br?nstr?m wrote:
>
> > But it didn't replace any elements at all. Until I reinstalled the
> > latest
> > Flash plugin. Now it says it has both Flash r22 and r24 (latest)...
>
> When it incorrectly detects Quicktime sIFR disables itself, so no
> elements are replaced.


Oh, so it still thinks I have Quicktime, because it finds two plugins? Can't
it detect "Quicktime" in the strings? Or is that unwise somehow?


> sIFR 3 SVN works, but not the r100 nightly. Not in any browser on
> > Windows (Opera,
> > IE, Firefox)
>
> The demo had been locked to localhost and my test domains. This is
> fine on a Mac, where files from the system originate from localhost,
> but not on Windows. I've removed this lock with the latest revision.


Thanks, that explains it.


> - and in IE I get a message about active content that I should
> > make a decision on whether to allow displayed or not.
>
> This is probably due to security measures when sIFR is used locally,
> I get Flash security warnings when viewing locally as well.
>
> > The SVN version works only in Firefox, not in any other browser.
> > The replacement just doesn't
> > happen.
>
> Could you clarify?


Hmm. These are the JS errors I get:

Opera: http://filer.brnm.se/i/opera-error.png

IE: http://filer.brnm.se/i/ie-error.png

In Firefox everything's OK. It replaces and renders everything. No errors in
the console.


I've now published r101 which should work again on Windows. The
> detection issue has not yet been resolved.
>
> --
> Mark Wubben
> http://novemberborn.net/
>
>
>
>


-- 
Fredrik Br?nstr?m
http://fredrik.branstrom.nu
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From branstrom at gmail.com  Sun Jun 18 13:20:57 2006
From: branstrom at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fredrik_Br=E4nstr=F6m?=)
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 15:20:57 +0200
Subject: [sIFR3-dev] Firefox on Windows
In-Reply-To: <22410ce30606180608t5d1a90e2r1026919cbacfb3a6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <22410ce30606020525o5a6e03e2xea17a01853ba0d7@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <22410ce30606180620n66983861idd4d81ee0476497c@mail.gmail.com>

With r101, http://filer.brnm.se/i/firefox-security-error.png shows up when I
view locally. On my test server it works, but still not in IE and Opera,
doesn't matter if I'm online or locally. Just so you know. I guess it's
because of the detection problem...

-- 
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From mark at novemberborn.net  Sun Jun 18 13:53:50 2006
From: mark at novemberborn.net (Mark Wubben)
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 15:53:50 +0200
Subject: [sIFR3-dev] Firefox on Windows
In-Reply-To: <22410ce30606180608t5d1a90e2r1026919cbacfb3a6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <22410ce30606020525o5a6e03e2xea17a01853ba0d7@mail.gmail.com>
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On Jun 18, 2006, at 3:08 PM, Fredrik Br?nstr?m wrote:
> Oh, so it still thinks I have Quicktime, because it finds two  
> plugins? Can't
> it detect "Quicktime" in the strings? Or is that unwise somehow?

At that time I figured that checking for the Flash version would help  
to detect any other plugins, but as it turns out older installs can  
still ba active.
> Hmm. These are the JS errors I get:

Ah cheers, small syntax error which is not present in Firefox. r102  
should have this fixed.

--
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http://novemberborn.net/





From branstrom at gmail.com  Sun Jun 18 14:07:11 2006
From: branstrom at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fredrik_Br=E4nstr=F6m?=)
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 16:07:11 +0200
Subject: [sIFR3-dev] Firefox on Windows
In-Reply-To: <0920A47C-DE16-4BC0-98D6-954FE91FC375@novemberborn.net>
References: <22410ce30606020525o5a6e03e2xea17a01853ba0d7@mail.gmail.com>
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On 6/18/06, Mark Wubben <mark at novemberborn.net> wrote:
>
> On Jun 18, 2006, at 3:08 PM, Fredrik Br?nstr?m wrote:
> > Oh, so it still thinks I have Quicktime, because it finds two
> > plugins? Can't
> > it detect "Quicktime" in the strings? Or is that unwise somehow?
>
> At that time I figured that checking for the Flash version would help
> to detect any other plugins, but as it turns out older installs can
> still ba active.


So why does it work now? Rather than before, when it detected one v7 and one
v8 plugin? Now it shows two v8 plugins (r22 and r24).

> Hmm. These are the JS errors I get:
>
> Ah cheers, small syntax error which is not present in Firefox. r102
> should have this fixed.


Glad to be of service.

--
> Mark Wubben
> http://novemberborn.net/
>
>
>
>


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From branstrom at gmail.com  Sun Jun 18 14:19:31 2006
From: branstrom at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fredrik_Br=E4nstr=F6m?=)
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 16:19:31 +0200
Subject: [sIFR3-dev] Firefox on Windows
In-Reply-To: <22410ce30606180707q6d0321d4xf39ab9dad3e8aa2b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <22410ce30606020525o5a6e03e2xea17a01853ba0d7@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <22410ce30606180719g63b79408p2b1db673b3bf2edd@mail.gmail.com>

Now it works in all browsers on Windows, but the dropshadow/knockout filter
doesn't display in IE. It does in Opera and Firefox.


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From mark at novemberborn.net  Sun Jun 18 14:21:12 2006
From: mark at novemberborn.net (Mark Wubben)
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 16:21:12 +0200
Subject: [sIFR3-dev] Firefox on Windows
In-Reply-To: <22410ce30606180707q6d0321d4xf39ab9dad3e8aa2b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <22410ce30606020525o5a6e03e2xea17a01853ba0d7@mail.gmail.com>
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On Jun 18, 2006, at 4:07 PM, Fredrik Br?nstr?m wrote:
> So why does it work now? Rather than before, when it detected one  
> v7 and one
> v8 plugin? Now it shows two v8 plugins (r22 and r24).

Probably because the latest version you installed removed Flash 7.

--
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http://novemberborn.net/





From branstrom at gmail.com  Sun Jun 18 14:23:57 2006
From: branstrom at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fredrik_Br=E4nstr=F6m?=)
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 16:23:57 +0200
Subject: [sIFR3-dev] Firefox on Windows
In-Reply-To: <1E4BBA0C-3968-4AFF-983C-1531C87EB0C2@novemberborn.net>
References: <22410ce30606020525o5a6e03e2xea17a01853ba0d7@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAC77E97-A852-4D44-8C9B-5EA4BF5701A8@novemberborn.net>
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Message-ID: <22410ce30606180723i443dc538y28cce148265abbcb@mail.gmail.com>

Is there a way to limit the detection to the Quicktime Flash plugin?

On 6/18/06, Mark Wubben <mark at novemberborn.net> wrote:
>
> On Jun 18, 2006, at 4:07 PM, Fredrik Br?nstr?m wrote:
> > So why does it work now? Rather than before, when it detected one
> > v7 and one
> > v8 plugin? Now it shows two v8 plugins (r22 and r24).
>
> Probably because the latest version you installed removed Flash 7.
>
> --
> Mark Wubben
> http://novemberborn.net/
>
>
>
>


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From branstrom at gmail.com  Sun Jun 18 14:50:20 2006
From: branstrom at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fredrik_Br=E4nstr=F6m?=)
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 16:50:20 +0200
Subject: [sIFR3-dev] Flash Background Images?
In-Reply-To: <BD08EB99-1C7B-4D94-B300-0C1C82BCD7EB@novemberborn.net>
References: <BD08EB99-1C7B-4D94-B300-0C1C82BCD7EB@novemberborn.net>
Message-ID: <22410ce30606180750l41593765y4a85cb047f2de8cd@mail.gmail.com>

You can just add a layer below the others with an image, I think.

On 5/26/06, Mark Wubben <mark at novemberborn.net> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Does anybody know how to add background images to a Flash movie? I'd
> like to add that to sIFR, but I can't figure out how to do it.
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
> Mark Wubben
> http://novemberborn.net/
>
>
>
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From mark at novemberborn.net  Sun Jun 18 14:51:03 2006
From: mark at novemberborn.net (Mark Wubben)
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 16:51:03 +0200
Subject: [sIFR3-dev] Firefox on Windows
In-Reply-To: <22410ce30606180719g63b79408p2b1db673b3bf2edd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <22410ce30606020525o5a6e03e2xea17a01853ba0d7@mail.gmail.com>
	<22410ce30606020734i2b459bcck2bc804df6b412904@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAC77E97-A852-4D44-8C9B-5EA4BF5701A8@novemberborn.net>
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	<22410ce30606180530p5c57e04bndcbdb5da9483006e@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <BC878455-1D02-4078-B289-B04452F39678@novemberborn.net>

On Jun 18, 2006, at 4:19 PM, Fredrik Br?nstr?m wrote:

> Now it works in all browsers on Windows, but the dropshadow/ 
> knockout filter
> doesn't display in IE. It does in Opera and Firefox.

Are you sure you have Flash 8 installed in IE?

--
Mark Wubben
http://novemberborn.net/





From mark at novemberborn.net  Sun Jun 18 14:51:27 2006
From: mark at novemberborn.net (Mark Wubben)
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 16:51:27 +0200
Subject: [sIFR3-dev] Firefox on Windows
In-Reply-To: <22410ce30606180723i443dc538y28cce148265abbcb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <22410ce30606020525o5a6e03e2xea17a01853ba0d7@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAC77E97-A852-4D44-8C9B-5EA4BF5701A8@novemberborn.net>
	<22410ce30606161554i22d09594ga31ee6347c9deaea@mail.gmail.com>
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	<22410ce30606180608t5d1a90e2r1026919cbacfb3a6@mail.gmail.com>
	<0920A47C-DE16-4BC0-98D6-954FE91FC375@novemberborn.net>
	<22410ce30606180707q6d0321d4xf39ab9dad3e8aa2b@mail.gmail.com>
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On Jun 18, 2006, at 4:23 PM, Fredrik Br?nstr?m wrote:

> Is there a way to limit the detection to the Quicktime Flash plugin?

Sure, check for Quiktime ;-) I just haven't gotten to it yet.

--
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http://novemberborn.net/





From branstrom at gmail.com  Sun Jun 18 14:58:11 2006
From: branstrom at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fredrik_Br=E4nstr=F6m?=)
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 16:58:11 +0200
Subject: [sIFR3-dev] Firefox on Windows
In-Reply-To: <BC878455-1D02-4078-B289-B04452F39678@novemberborn.net>
References: <22410ce30606020525o5a6e03e2xea17a01853ba0d7@mail.gmail.com>
	<22410ce30606161554i22d09594ga31ee6347c9deaea@mail.gmail.com>
	<315F84E0-0B15-4218-A6E7-9156B10D37AD@novemberborn.net>
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	<0920A47C-DE16-4BC0-98D6-954FE91FC375@novemberborn.net>
	<22410ce30606180707q6d0321d4xf39ab9dad3e8aa2b@mail.gmail.com>
	<22410ce30606180719g63b79408p2b1db673b3bf2edd@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <22410ce30606180758q65be4e2do7f8a654753d7266b@mail.gmail.com>

Apparently, I have Flash v6 in IE. Even though I very recently installed the
latest Flash version... >:o

On 6/18/06, Mark Wubben <mark at novemberborn.net> wrote:
>
> On Jun 18, 2006, at 4:19 PM, Fredrik Br?nstr?m wrote:
>
> > Now it works in all browsers on Windows, but the dropshadow/
> > knockout filter
> > doesn't display in IE. It does in Opera and Firefox.
>
> Are you sure you have Flash 8 installed in IE?
>
> --
> Mark Wubben
> http://novemberborn.net/
>
>
>
>


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From foliomedia at gmail.com  Mon Jun 19 23:38:58 2006
From: foliomedia at gmail.com (Dylan Smith)
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 16:38:58 -0700
Subject: [sIFR3-dev] r102 spacing problem
Message-ID: <1ea9048c0606191638q15e7ac78h82cb2352228508e3@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all--
r102 is working well for me on Windows IE6/IE7b2/Firefox 1.5.3 (Opera Beta
1, however, shows both the original and Flash headings). It also works as
expected on Mac Firefox (BonEcho) and Safari as well. Great work.

I can't figure out how to expand the letter spacing however. I've tried to
set it in Flash to every value between 1 and 10 and nothing changes (though
it shows the difference in Flash clearly). I've seen the svn demo that shows
it working -- what am I missing? This is, of course, only for the version 8
swf...

Any help would be appreciated.
--Dylan
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From mark at novemberborn.net  Tue Jun 20 07:42:57 2006
From: mark at novemberborn.net (Mark Wubben)
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 09:42:57 +0200
Subject: [sIFR3-dev] r102 spacing problem
In-Reply-To: <1ea9048c0606191638q15e7ac78h82cb2352228508e3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1ea9048c0606191638q15e7ac78h82cb2352228508e3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <059EE8F0-253C-4DDC-A63A-9BA6D44FD4D3@novemberborn.net>

Hi Dylan,

On Jun 20, 2006, at 1:38 AM, Dylan Smith wrote:
> Opera Beta 1, however, shows both the original and Flash headings).

Do you mean beta 1 of Opera 9? And just on Windows, I assume?

> I can't figure out how to expand the letter spacing however. I've  
> tried to set it in Flash to every value between 1 and 10 and  
> nothing changes (though it shows the difference in Flash clearly).  
> I've seen the svn demo that shows it working -- what am I missing?  
> This is, of course, only for the version 8 swf...

You've configured it the way it's done in the demo? Then it should  
work... Got a page to look at?

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From branstrom at gmail.com  Thu Jun 22 16:58:55 2006
From: branstrom at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fredrik_Br=E4nstr=F6m?=)
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 18:58:55 +0200
Subject: [sIFR3-dev] r102 spacing problem
In-Reply-To: <059EE8F0-253C-4DDC-A63A-9BA6D44FD4D3@novemberborn.net>
References: <1ea9048c0606191638q15e7ac78h82cb2352228508e3@mail.gmail.com>
	<059EE8F0-253C-4DDC-A63A-9BA6D44FD4D3@novemberborn.net>
Message-ID: <22410ce30606220958g6fe673f2ke1e7891229f2a0e5@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/20/06, Mark Wubben <mark at novemberborn.net> wrote:
>
> Hi Dylan,
>
> On Jun 20, 2006, at 1:38 AM, Dylan Smith wrote:
> > Opera Beta 1, however, shows both the original and Flash headings).
>
> Do you mean beta 1 of Opera 9? And just on Windows, I assume?


The error I get on Opera 9 (final version, just released) is this:

JavaScript - http://novemberborn.net/sifr3/alpha
Inline script thread
Error:
name: TypeError
message: Statement on line 106: Type mismatch (usually a non-object value
used where an object is required)
Backtrace:
  Line 106 of linked script
http://novemberborn.net/dev/parseselector/svn/src/parseSelector.js
    if (nodes[i].getAttribute("id") == filter)
          Line 63 of linked script
http://novemberborn.net/dev/parseselector/svn/src/parseSelector.js
    return selectors[token] ? selectors[token](nodes, filter, args) : [];
  Line 41 of linked script
http://novemberborn.net/dev/parseselector/svn/src/parseSelector.js
    nodes = select(nodes, token, filter, args);
  Line 538 of linked script
http://novemberborn.net/dev/sifr3/svn/src/sifr.js
    var nodes = parseSelector(kwargs.selector);
  Line 326 of linked script
http://novemberborn.net/dev/sifr3/svn/src/sifr.js
    for (var i = 0;i < this.kwargs.length;i++)
      Line 412 of linked script
http://novemberborn.net/dev/sifr3/svn/src/sifr.js
    replaceKwargsStore.replaceAll();
  Line 1 of inline#2 script in http://novemberborn.net/sifr3/alpha
    sIFR.initialize();


> I can't figure out how to expand the letter spacing however. I've
> > tried to set it in Flash to every value between 1 and 10 and
> > nothing changes (though it shows the difference in Flash clearly).
> > I've seen the svn demo that shows it working -- what am I missing?
> > This is, of course, only for the version 8 swf...
>
> You've configured it the way it's done in the demo? Then it should
> work... Got a page to look at?
>
> --
> Mark Wubben
> http://novemberborn.net/
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sifr3-dev mailing list
> sifr3-dev at lists.novemberborn.net
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From branstrom at gmail.com  Thu Jun 22 18:15:53 2006
From: branstrom at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fredrik_Br=E4nstr=F6m?=)
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 20:15:53 +0200
Subject: [sIFR3-dev] r102 spacing problem
In-Reply-To: <059EE8F0-253C-4DDC-A63A-9BA6D44FD4D3@novemberborn.net>
References: <1ea9048c0606191638q15e7ac78h82cb2352228508e3@mail.gmail.com>
	<059EE8F0-253C-4DDC-A63A-9BA6D44FD4D3@novemberborn.net>
Message-ID: <22410ce30606221115m4f40d43apad9f36faf4abecd9@mail.gmail.com>

Oh, forgot to mention that the only browser having problems on Windows is
Opera 9.

Opera 8, Firefox 1.5, and IE6 are doing good.

One thing... Wasn't it intended for the sIFRed headlines to wrap when you
resize the window? Not only when you reload the page?


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From mark at novemberborn.net  Thu Jun 22 18:37:08 2006
From: mark at novemberborn.net (Mark Wubben)
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 20:37:08 +0200
Subject: [sIFR3-dev] r102 spacing problem
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Hey Frederik,

Thanks for the report, I managed to isolate the problem to a bug in  
Opera 9. For the techy details: the code to parse selectors uses  
`node.all` (as in `document.all`, but node specific) instead of  
`node.getElementsByTagName('*')` to work around a problem in IE 5.0.  
Opera 9 returns some text nodes when you use this property, which  
then causes mayhem to the code. Fixed it now.

On Jun 22, 2006, at 8:15 PM, Fredrik Br?nstr?m wrote:
> One thing... Wasn't it intended for the sIFRed headlines to wrap  
> when you resize the window? Not only when you reload the page?

Yep, when I find the time :)

Kind regards,

--
Mark Wubben
http://novemberborn.net/





From branstrom at gmail.com  Thu Jun 22 18:38:59 2006
From: branstrom at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fredrik_Br=E4nstr=F6m?=)
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 20:38:59 +0200
Subject: [sIFR3-dev] r102 spacing problem
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References: <1ea9048c0606191638q15e7ac78h82cb2352228508e3@mail.gmail.com>
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	<22410ce30606221115m4f40d43apad9f36faf4abecd9@mail.gmail.com>
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Just checking. Take your time.

On 6/22/06, Mark Wubben <mark at novemberborn.net> wrote:
>
> Hey Frederik,
>
> Thanks for the report, I managed to isolate the problem to a bug in
> Opera 9. For the techy details: the code to parse selectors uses
> `node.all` (as in `document.all`, but node specific) instead of
> `node.getElementsByTagName('*')` to work around a problem in IE 5.0.
> Opera 9 returns some text nodes when you use this property, which
> then causes mayhem to the code. Fixed it now.
>
> On Jun 22, 2006, at 8:15 PM, Fredrik Br?nstr?m wrote:
> > One thing... Wasn't it intended for the sIFRed headlines to wrap
> > when you resize the window? Not only when you reload the page?
>
> Yep, when I find the time :)
>
> Kind regards,
>
> --
> Mark Wubben
> http://novemberborn.net/
>
>
>
>


-- 
Fredrik Br?nstr?m
http://fredrik.branstrom.nu
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From branstrom at gmail.com  Thu Jun 22 18:41:37 2006
From: branstrom at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fredrik_Br=E4nstr=F6m?=)
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 20:41:37 +0200
Subject: [sIFR3-dev] r102 spacing problem
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Will be accomplished through JS, presumably? Watching onresize is the only
way? No?

On 6/22/06, Fredrik Br?nstr?m <branstrom at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Just checking. Take your time.
>
>
> On 6/22/06, Mark Wubben <mark at novemberborn.net> wrote:
> >
> > Hey Frederik,
> >
> > Thanks for the report, I managed to isolate the problem to a bug in
> > Opera 9. For the techy details: the code to parse selectors uses
> > `node.all` (as in `document.all`, but node specific) instead of
> > `node.getElementsByTagName('*')` to work around a problem in IE 5.0.
> > Opera 9 returns some text nodes when you use this property, which
> > then causes mayhem to the code. Fixed it now.
> >
> > On Jun 22, 2006, at 8:15 PM, Fredrik Br?nstr?m wrote:
> > > One thing... Wasn't it intended for the sIFRed headlines to wrap
> > > when you resize the window? Not only when you reload the page?
> >
> > Yep, when I find the time :)
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > --
> > Mark Wubben
> > http://novemberborn.net/
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Fredrik Br?nstr?m
> http://fredrik.branstrom.nu
>



-- 
Fredrik Br?nstr?m
http://fredrik.branstrom.nu
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From branstrom at gmail.com  Thu Jun 22 19:14:45 2006
From: branstrom at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fredrik_Br=E4nstr=F6m?=)
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 21:14:45 +0200
Subject: [sIFR3-dev] r102 spacing problem
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On 6/22/06, Mark Wubben <mark at novemberborn.net> wrote:
>
> Hey Frederik,
>
> Thanks for the report, I managed to isolate the problem to a bug in
> Opera 9. For the techy details: the code to parse selectors uses
> `node.all` (as in `document.all`, but node specific) instead of
> `node.getElementsByTagName('*')` to work around a problem in IE 5.0.
> Opera 9 returns some text nodes when you use this property, which
> then causes mayhem to the code. Fixed it now.


Nightly r103 confirmed working in all major Windows browsers.

The line height or margins or whatever are a little large in Opera 8
though...

-- 
Fredrik Br?nstr?m
http://fredrik.branstrom.nu
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From branstrom at gmail.com  Tue Jun 27 21:19:27 2006
From: branstrom at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fredrik_Br=E4nstr=F6m?=)
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 23:19:27 +0200
Subject: [sIFR3-dev] Errors when exporting Flash
Message-ID: <22410ce30606271419u395434cfi8a8bcbbf87ea7d03@mail.gmail.com>

http://filer.brnm.se/export-errors.log
This is what I see in the log when trying to export a Flash movie for sIFR
3...


http://filer.brnm.se/i/actionscript-classpath.png
I noticed this when I pressed the settings button beside the ActionScript
version option - is it relevant somehow? Something you've missed in the
documentation, Mark?

-- 
Fredrik Br?nstr?m
http://fredrik.branstrom.nu
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From mark at novemberborn.net  Tue Jun 27 21:35:09 2006
From: mark at novemberborn.net (Mark Wubben)
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 23:35:09 +0200
Subject: [sIFR3-dev] Errors when exporting Flash
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On Jun 27, 2006, at 11:19 PM, Fredrik Br?nstr?m wrote:

> http://filer.brnm.se/export-errors.log
> This is what I see in the log when trying to export a Flash movie  
> for sIFR
> 3...

Those errors seem to indicate that Flash is unable to find it's own  
classes, that shouldn't be sIFR related.

> http://filer.brnm.se/i/actionscript-classpath.png
> I noticed this when I pressed the settings button beside the  
> ActionScript
> version option - is it relevant somehow? Something you've missed in  
> the
> documentation, Mark?

Nope, I haven't configured such a path myself either. Perhaps you  
could add the correct path to the Flash ActionScript files here?

--
Mark Wubben
http://novemberborn.net/





From branstrom at gmail.com  Wed Jun 28 12:03:41 2006
From: branstrom at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fredrik_Br=E4nstr=F6m?=)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 14:03:41 +0200
Subject: [sIFR3-dev] Errors when exporting Flash
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My bad. This is because of a disk "crash" I had a while ago. All the files
were moved and renamed to lowercase by a "rogue" plugin of my IM client (it
had some paths wrong so it defaulted to the disk root when it was going to
dispose of some automated backups).

It was a pain in the ass to recover from, I knew I could do it without
reinstalling Windows, but obviously it wasn't a decision without
repercussions, Flash is one of the few case-sensitive apps I've come across
since I moved all the files back to their original location.

Could you or anyone else send me the contents of your equivalent of

D:\Profiles\Fredrik\Local Settings\Application Data\Macromedia\Flash
8\en\Configuration\Classes

zipped up, so that I can replace my files with working ones?

On 6/27/06, Mark Wubben <mark at novemberborn.net> wrote:
>
> On Jun 27, 2006, at 11:19 PM, Fredrik Br?nstr?m wrote:
>
> > http://filer.brnm.se/export-errors.log
> > This is what I see in the log when trying to export a Flash movie
> > for sIFR
> > 3...
>
> Those errors seem to indicate that Flash is unable to find it's own
> classes, that shouldn't be sIFR related.
>
> > http://filer.brnm.se/i/actionscript-classpath.png
> > I noticed this when I pressed the settings button beside the
> > ActionScript
> > version option - is it relevant somehow? Something you've missed in
> > the
> > documentation, Mark?
>
> Nope, I haven't configured such a path myself either. Perhaps you
> could add the correct path to the Flash ActionScript files here?
>
> --
> Mark Wubben
> http://novemberborn.net/
>
>
>
>


-- 
Fredrik Br?nstr?m
http://fredrik.branstrom.nu
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