From branstrom at gmail.com  Thu Aug  3 16:23:35 2006
From: branstrom at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fredrik_Br=E4nstr=F6m?=)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 18:23:35 +0200
Subject: [sIFR3-dev] Assorted annoyances :)
Message-ID: <22410ce30608030923n6f16d365qb130f219a33e089@mail.gmail.com>

I exported my v8 .swf with a dropshadow, at around 70% strength. This makes
sIFR display the text with a faint dropshadow by default, as intended.
However, it doesn't allow adjusting it with settings in the kwargs objects.
It reacts when I set strength: 1, but not when I set it to strength:
0.5(tried .5 too) or anything below 1. Even strength: 0 doesn't remove
the
effect.

If I remove the filter from the .swf so that it does not render it by
default, and then try to set a dropshadow and in the kwargs specify strength
to < 1, I don't get any effect. It seems as though the .swf doesn't
understand the fractions, only 100% or nothing.

Ergh. While writing this mail, I discovered that if I quote the fraction...
it kind of works. But setting the effect in the kwargs only and with a
fractioned strength, produces a blurry shadow, as opposed to the much
sharper one you get [1] when you set the filter in Flash before exporting
(and then use a strength < 1 or omit the filter spec in the kwargs). I don't
know why this is...

---

Something else: I looked at an old test case... it is quite clear that the
cut-off bug looks the way it does because of the .swf textfield dimensions,
the textfield doesn't get correctly resized internally by the ActionScript,
I guess... I've illustrated it here:
http://filer.brnm.se/i/cutoff3-hmm.pngHope it helps somehow.

It doesn't seem to happen so often now though... Maybe it has to do with
whether you have the filters defined in the replacement call or in the Flash
itself. Could be the trigger. Or maybe you've fixed it altogether, in a more
recent nightly. The one seen above is r103.

---

On yet another topic (I guess I should ideally send separate mails...),
wouldn't it be possible to set the width of the Flash to exactly what's
needed for the text to be visible, and nothing more? I keep getting annoyed
with the need to have 100% width <embed> objects all over the place.

---

Oh, and the latest nightly doesn't work in IE. You should really get
yourself a Windows box for IE testing, or an Intel Mac with Parallels/Boot
Camp.

Mark, I checked out the forums, I hope you're not intimidated by the amount
of bugs that seem to arise everywhere. I would be.

[1]: At least with my font and settings:
http://branstrom.nu:81/new/forum/demo/fms.html

-- 
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From mark at novemberborn.net  Thu Aug  3 16:51:04 2006
From: mark at novemberborn.net (Mark Wubben)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 09:51:04 -0700
Subject: [sIFR3-dev] Assorted annoyances :)
In-Reply-To: <22410ce30608030923n6f16d365qb130f219a33e089@mail.gmail.com>
References: <22410ce30608030923n6f16d365qb130f219a33e089@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C3A7A0FF-4D89-4B81-BA93-D91D9BE80D40@novemberborn.net>

Quick reply to one point, as I'm at the office:

On Aug 3, 2006, at 9:23 AM, Fredrik Br?nstr?m wrote:
> Oh, and the latest nightly doesn't work in IE. You should really get
> yourself a Windows box for IE testing, or an Intel Mac with  
> Parallels/Boot
> Camp.

I have a Windows box, back at home in the Netherlands. The recent  
development has just been on the Mac, when I had some spare time. I  
can't test everything in IE before I commit it to SVN all the time ;-)

> Mark, I checked out the forums, I hope you're not intimidated by  
> the amount
> of bugs that seem to arise everywhere. I would be.

It's not that much, actually. Just IE that's not working. And then  
there are the more normal support questions...

More replies later,

--
Mark Wubben
http://novemberborn.net/





From mark at novemberborn.net  Sun Aug  6 19:23:39 2006
From: mark at novemberborn.net (Mark Wubben)
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 12:23:39 -0700
Subject: [sIFR3-dev] Assorted annoyances :)
In-Reply-To: <22410ce30608030923n6f16d365qb130f219a33e089@mail.gmail.com>
References: <22410ce30608030923n6f16d365qb130f219a33e089@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A318BBB0-5D41-49F4-A1E9-8DCA43E792E9@novemberborn.net>

Apologies for the late reply, I need to check my "need to reply" box  
more often...

On Aug 3, 2006, at 9:23 AM, Fredrik Br?nstr?m wrote:

> I exported my v8 .swf with a dropshadow, at around 70% strength.  
> This makes sIFR display the text with a faint dropshadow by  
> default, as intended. However, it doesn't allow adjusting it with  
> settings in the kwargs objects. It reacts when I set strength: 1,  
> but not when I set it to strength: 0.5 (tried .5 too) or anything  
> below 1. Even strength: 0 doesn't remove the effect.

I'm not sure if sIFR can override filters defined through the Flash  
IDE. Probably best to define through script (either in Options.as or  
on JavaScript).

> If I remove the filter from the .swf so that it does not render it  
> by default, and then try to set a dropshadow and in the kwargs  
> specify strength to < 1, I don't get any effect. It seems as though  
> the .swf doesn't understand the fractions, only 100% or nothing.

That's a bug, thanks.

>
> Ergh. While writing this mail, I discovered that if I quote the  
> fraction... it kind of works. But setting the effect in the kwargs  
> only and with a fractioned strength, produces a blurry shadow, as  
> opposed to the much sharper one you get [1] when you set the filter  
> in Flash before exporting (and then use a strength < 1 or omit the  
> filter spec in the kwargs). I don't know why this is...

I'll put out the fixed version (r120 or above), could you try again  
using the actual fraction?

> Something else: I looked at an old test case... it is quite clear  
> that the cut-off bug looks the way it does because of the .swf  
> textfield dimensions, the textfield doesn't get correctly resized  
> internally by the ActionScript, I guess...

That'd be weird, as it's always resized to the height and width of  
the text. Does this still occur with the latest revisions (r119 or  
above)?
> On yet another topic (I guess I should ideally send separate  
> mails...), wouldn't it be possible to set the width of the Flash to  
> exactly what's needed for the text to be visible, and nothing more?  
> I keep getting annoyed with the need to have 100% width <embed>  
> objects all over the place.

The reason it's 100% is that it won't cause scrollbars when you make  
the window smaller, the text should "simply" disappear. As I want to  
add reflow support when the font size and window size change, this  
might no longer be needed.

Kind regards,

--
Mark Wubben
http://novemberborn.net/





From branstrom at gmail.com  Sun Aug  6 19:49:50 2006
From: branstrom at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fredrik_Br=E4nstr=F6m?=)
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 21:49:50 +0200
Subject: [sIFR3-dev] Assorted annoyances :)
In-Reply-To: <A318BBB0-5D41-49F4-A1E9-8DCA43E792E9@novemberborn.net>
References: <22410ce30608030923n6f16d365qb130f219a33e089@mail.gmail.com>
	<A318BBB0-5D41-49F4-A1E9-8DCA43E792E9@novemberborn.net>
Message-ID: <22410ce30608061249m78844379k34163f886b4a4e6e@mail.gmail.com>

On 8/6/06, Mark Wubben <mark at novemberborn.net> wrote:
>
> Apologies for the late reply, I need to check my "need to reply" box
> more often...


No sweat.

On Aug 3, 2006, at 9:23 AM, Fredrik Br?nstr?m wrote:
>
> > I exported my v8 .swf with a dropshadow, at around 70% strength.
> > This makes sIFR display the text with a faint dropshadow by
> > default, as intended. However, it doesn't allow adjusting it with
> > settings in the kwargs objects. It reacts when I set strength: 1,
> > but not when I set it to strength: 0.5 (tried .5 too) or anything
> > below 1. Even strength: 0 doesn't remove the effect.
>
> I'm not sure if sIFR can override filters defined through the Flash
> IDE. Probably best to define through script (either in Options.as or
> on JavaScript).


I would, if it weren't for the nicer shadow I got when I set in before
exporting the Flash. I also assumed sending the filter definition to every
sIFRed element through JS would just mean a slowdown (probably not
noticeable though), as opposed to baking them into the SWF itself.

I'll put out the fixed version (r120 or above), could you try again
> using the actual fraction?


I will.

> Something else: I looked at an old test case... it is quite clear
> > that the cut-off bug looks the way it does because of the .swf
> > textfield dimensions, the textfield doesn't get correctly resized
> > internally by the ActionScript, I guess...
>
> That'd be weird, as it's always resized to the height and width of
> the text. Does this still occur with the latest revisions (r119 or
> above)?


 I don't think so, actually. I'll look closer when I'm playing with it.

> On yet another topic (I guess I should ideally send separate
> > mails...), wouldn't it be possible to set the width of the Flash to
> > exactly what's needed for the text to be visible, and nothing more?
> > I keep getting annoyed with the need to have 100% width <embed>
> > objects all over the place.
>
> The reason it's 100% is that it won't cause scrollbars when you make
> the window smaller, the text should "simply" disappear. As I want to
> add reflow support when the font size and window size change, this
> might no longer be needed.


That would be a dream come true ;)

Kind regards,
>
> --
> Mark Wubben
> http://novemberborn.net/
>
>
>
>


-- 
Fredrik Br?nstr?m
http://fredrik.branstrom.nu
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From branstrom at gmail.com  Thu Aug 10 23:36:50 2006
From: branstrom at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fredrik_Br=E4nstr=F6m?=)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 01:36:50 +0200
Subject: [sIFR3-dev] Assorted annoyances :)
In-Reply-To: <22410ce30608061249m78844379k34163f886b4a4e6e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <22410ce30608030923n6f16d365qb130f219a33e089@mail.gmail.com>
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	<22410ce30608061249m78844379k34163f886b4a4e6e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <22410ce30608101636n20b050c9h693141f22edc8979@mail.gmail.com>

I just saw it happening with r119. The context menu and the cursor is the
giveaway. It's a text cursor (after you've focused the Flash by clicking on
it, you need to do that sometimes - for links too, which can be a
problem...) when inside the textfield, but outside it's just the normal
pointer and the context menu just shows "About Adobe Flash Player blabla".
So it is pretty obvious what's happening, I'll just leave it to you to
figure out where, when and why.

On 8/6/06, Fredrik Br?nstr?m <branstrom at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 8/6/06, Mark Wubben <mark at novemberborn.net> wrote:
>
> > Something else: I looked at an old test case... it is quite clear
> > > that the cut-off bug looks the way it does because of the .swf
> > > textfield dimensions, the textfield doesn't get correctly resized
> > > internally by the ActionScript, I guess...
> >
> > That'd be weird, as it's always resized to the height and width of
> > the text. Does this still occur with the latest revisions (r119 or
> > above)?
>
>
>  I don't think so, actually. I'll look closer when I'm playing with it.
>
> --
> Fredrik Br?nstr?m
> http://fredrik.branstrom.nu
>



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From mark at novemberborn.net  Sat Aug 12 04:59:03 2006
From: mark at novemberborn.net (Mark Wubben)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 21:59:03 -0700
Subject: [sIFR3-dev] Assorted annoyances :)
In-Reply-To: <22410ce30608101636n20b050c9h693141f22edc8979@mail.gmail.com>
References: <22410ce30608030923n6f16d365qb130f219a33e089@mail.gmail.com>
	<A318BBB0-5D41-49F4-A1E9-8DCA43E792E9@novemberborn.net>
	<22410ce30608061249m78844379k34163f886b4a4e6e@mail.gmail.com>
	<22410ce30608101636n20b050c9h693141f22edc8979@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9C73A441-EDF4-46BD-9BE0-AF219DD2C1C3@novemberborn.net>

Thanks, I'll look into it!

On Aug 10, 2006, at 4:36 PM, Fredrik Br?nstr?m wrote:

> I just saw it happening with r119. The context menu and the cursor  
> is the giveaway. It's a text cursor (after you've focused the Flash  
> by clicking on it, you need to do that sometimes - for links too,  
> which can be a problem...) when inside the textfield, but outside  
> it's just the normal pointer and the context menu just shows "About  
> Adobe Flash Player blabla". So it is pretty obvious what's  
> happening, I'll just leave it to you to figure out where, when and  
> why.
>
> On 8/6/06, Fredrik Br?nstr?m <branstrom at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 8/6/06, Mark Wubben <mark at novemberborn.net> wrote:
>
> > Something else: I looked at an old test case... it is quite clear
> > that the cut-off bug looks the way it does because of the .swf
> > textfield dimensions, the textfield doesn't get correctly resized
> > internally by the ActionScript, I guess...
>
> That'd be weird, as it's always resized to the height and width of
> the text. Does this still occur with the latest revisions (r119 or
> above)?
>
>  I don't think so, actually. I'll look closer when I'm playing with  
> it.
>
> -- 
> Fredrik Br?nstr?m
> http://fredrik.branstrom.nu
>
>
>
> -- 
> Fredrik Br?nstr?m
> http://fredrik.branstrom.nu

--
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http://novemberborn.net/





From mark at novemberborn.net  Fri Aug 18 06:40:16 2006
From: mark at novemberborn.net (Mark Wubben)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 23:40:16 -0700
Subject: [sIFR3-dev] IE works again
Message-ID: <D8B685D5-2591-4B8B-B185-452A7F0B3FD4@novemberborn.net>

Hey,

Thanks to some spurring by Frederik, and free time on my side, and a  
helpful colleague who tested in  IE, I've got sIFR working again in  
IE (as of r121).

Regards,

--
Mark Wubben
http://novemberborn.net/





From branstrom at gmail.com  Fri Aug 18 11:33:32 2006
From: branstrom at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fredrik_Br=E4nstr=F6m?=)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:33:32 +0200
Subject: [sIFR3-dev] IE works again
In-Reply-To: <D8B685D5-2591-4B8B-B185-452A7F0B3FD4@novemberborn.net>
References: <D8B685D5-2591-4B8B-B185-452A7F0B3FD4@novemberborn.net>
Message-ID: <22410ce30608180433r7f01d0e0y47389dfed5d11c91@mail.gmail.com>

Yay, and I didn't even have to do anything. :D

On 8/18/06, Mark Wubben <mark at novemberborn.net> wrote:
>
> Hey,
>
> Thanks to some spurring by Frederik, and free time on my side, and a
> helpful colleague who tested in  IE, I've got sIFR working again in
> IE (as of r121).
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Mark Wubben
> http://novemberborn.net/
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sifr3-dev mailing list
> sifr3-dev at lists.novemberborn.net
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From guyoome at yahoo.fr  Tue Aug 22 12:25:46 2006
From: guyoome at yahoo.fr (Guillaume)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 14:25:46 +0200
Subject: [sIFR3-dev] Hi there! new member coming  =]
Message-ID: <0C4E9707-BDED-432D-9CCB-95D5A4FEB09B@yahoo.fr>

Hi all!
I'am a new, french, user on this list... [ sorry for my english ]

i make xhtml + css websites and i am currently freelance graphic  
designer.

I have install sIFR 3 on my server and i have doing some test since  
this morning.
Before use this new version i have use sIFR 2 and i have some problems
(font-sizes....)

my flash-replacement are in divs with round-corners , with color  
hover effect:
div.reference:hover  {background: #6BAFAD}

and so, on hover mode, we can see the grey background of my anchor  
flash-sIFR
an example on line of my problem :
http://drops.fr/niouwa/round2.php

I have request for you:
Can i put a transparent "background-color" on my anchor "sIFRflash" ?
with "w-mode?" "transparency?" "transparent?"


Thanx for reading.
Cordially
Guillaume



	
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From branstrom at gmail.com  Tue Aug 22 12:43:44 2006
From: branstrom at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fredrik_Br=E4nstr=F6m?=)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 14:43:44 +0200
Subject: [sIFR3-dev] Hi there! new member coming =]
In-Reply-To: <0C4E9707-BDED-432D-9CCB-95D5A4FEB09B@yahoo.fr>
References: <0C4E9707-BDED-432D-9CCB-95D5A4FEB09B@yahoo.fr>
Message-ID: <22410ce30608220543o78c72f6bs5b5631c1decccf8b@mail.gmail.com>

I can't see any sIFRed text on that page. There must be something
wrong with the way you call sIFR or there's no elements that match the
selector... $$(".sIFR-replaced").length doesn't return any elements,
so nothing has been sIFRed.

As for the transparency, you just have to pass the wmode argument in
the replacement call, like this:

  sIFR.replace({
    selector: 'h2',
    src: 'rockwell-7.swf',
    highsrc: 'rockwell-8.swf'
    css: {
      '.sIFR-root': { 'font-weight': 'bold', 'leading': -5,
'background-color': '#FFFFFF' }
    },
    wmode: 'transparent'
  });



On 8/22/06, Guillaume <guyoome at yahoo.fr> wrote:
>
> Hi all!
> I'am a new, french, user on this list... [ sorry for my english ]
>
> i make xhtml + css websites and i am currently freelance graphic
> designer.
>
> I have install sIFR 3 on my server and i have doing some test since
> this morning.
> Before use this new version i have use sIFR 2 and i have some problems
> (font-sizes....)
>
> my flash-replacement are in divs with round-corners , with color
> hover effect:
> div.reference:hover  {background: #6BAFAD}
>
> and so, on hover mode, we can see the grey background of my anchor
> flash-sIFR
> an example on line of my problem :
> http://drops.fr/niouwa/round2.php
>
> I have request for you:
> Can i put a transparent "background-color" on my anchor "sIFRflash" ?
> with "w-mode?" "transparency?" "transparent?"
>
>
> Thanx for reading.
> Cordially
> Guillaume
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
> ___________________________________________________________________________
> D?couvrez un nouveau moyen de poser toutes vos questions quelque soit le
> sujet !
> Yahoo! Questions/R?ponses pour partager vos connaissances, vos opinions et
> vos exp?riences.
> http://fr.answers.yahoo.com
>
>
>
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